Tuesday, May 09, 2006
The Gandhi Phoenix
A very good friend of mine sent a forward to our college group which joked about the Current Gandhi family. I thought of saying a line or two against the mail. I wrote it and what I got was a huge mail just blasting my mail left right and centre. Brilliant mail but ofcourse I am not the one who could let my dear Devashish Sarkar to get away with that ;) Whats written below is my reply against each of his points taking one by one. Gosh i had to sit on the net to do some research before writing it.. :) The text in italics is what Dev wrote. The one in bold is what i wrote... Have fun.My opinion is that the Gandhi’s' present generation don’t deserve what they r getting ... not a single one of them ... Sonia doesn’t have any political achievements ... she is important to these empty headed congress zealots because ... according to them ... she is the only link to Jawahar - Indira - Rajiv ... and somehow by bear beating the overused but shallow name of "Gandhi" ...they can get the coveted seat of power...
Smt. Sonia Gandhi has emerged as more than the President of the Congress Party. Today she represents the hopes of millions of Indians reeling under the anti-national, anti-poor and unconstitutional politics of the BJP. In the past five years, Smt. Sonia Gandhiji has joined the ranks of our earlier statesman like Smt. Indira Gandhiji and Shri Rajiv Gandhi. She has toured the length and breath of this country and through her accessibility to the masses, and their response to her, proved that she not only lives up to the traditions of the Gandhi family but continues them so that, under her leadership, the Congress Party can once again claim its place as the leading political party of our country.
I don’t know if u remember properly but Indira died in Sonia's arms and she was killed by her own bodyguard who was a Sikh and after that anti-Congress people floated the news that Congress is anti-Sikh. That same Sonia Gandhi left her post to a Sikh just because she found him more suitable for the post and that she had other responsibilities. She didn’t back out because our 'own' saffron clad Sushma Swaraj said that she will commit suicide if the 'firang' becomes the PM.
If this is not a political achievement, i want to ask u the definition of political achievement.
Secondly I don’t know how u believe the fact that people would back Sonia and congress 'solely' because of their history !! 
If you think that renunciating the seat of PM is her sacrifice ... I think it is a political price she has paid so that her children continue to enjoy the fruits of power ... till eternity ... and who wont accept that Dr. MM Singh is nothing more than a puppet PM ... the actual power still resides in 10 race course ...
Dev i want to know what 'fruits of power' are being enjoyed by Rahul/Priyanka ?
I don’t accept the fact that you are calling the most educated PM in the world today, a puppet PM. He has a better educational background than Amartya Sen. :)... If you can say this, its not you speaking, this is a voice of a BJP supporter. If consulting your party President (Sonia) is being a puppet, my dear Dev, its time u start thinking from a neutral point of view while arguing on these points.
Yes Dev I think wining parliamentary seats is an achievement. You cannot be a hypocrit in calling
Regarding
Very true but whom can u take out of the list??
Lastly i would not even consider our beloved Atalji as even a sane person who can have the 'guts' to speak against the people who brought us our independence.
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abey saalon tum logon ke paas aur koi topic nahi hai discussion karne ke liye
ek sonia ki le rahaa hai aur doosra bacha raha hai and in the meantime atal ki le raha hai
Well I have to agree with Arijit that BJP sucks big time now!
all its hindutva stuff has been pushed back up into its ass
and with the better politicians getting killed (read P.Mahajan), BJP has totally lost its forts now...evidence is in the recent polls
but you guys should talk about the latest Buddha in the circuit
man what adolations this Bhattacharya guy is getting
and I've heard he deserves it too
well I agree with this Deb too
that sonia Gandhi is a scheming @#$?*
not that i hold anything against her
jab apne hi log apne desh ko loot rahe hain
then [quote]foreigners[unquote] ko bhi fair chance milna chahiye
well she's doing a great job at that
getting to be the most powerful lady of the country and nobody's suspecting her
ek sonia ki le rahaa hai aur doosra bacha raha hai and in the meantime atal ki le raha hai
Well I have to agree with Arijit that BJP sucks big time now!
all its hindutva stuff has been pushed back up into its ass
and with the better politicians getting killed (read P.Mahajan), BJP has totally lost its forts now...evidence is in the recent polls
but you guys should talk about the latest Buddha in the circuit
man what adolations this Bhattacharya guy is getting
and I've heard he deserves it too
well I agree with this Deb too
that sonia Gandhi is a scheming @#$?*
not that i hold anything against her
jab apne hi log apne desh ko loot rahe hain
then [quote]foreigners[unquote] ko bhi fair chance milna chahiye
well she's doing a great job at that
getting to be the most powerful lady of the country and nobody's suspecting her
# posted by 
: 2:54 AM
: 2:54 AM
Dude.. i dont like anonymous posts unless u r writing something very conflicting which could start wars.. :)) Bata yaar kaun hai ??
I agree and disagree with both of you..first of all i would like to say...what has congress given to this country...??any thing really great??? has there been any such achievement to be proud of....the fact is even now ppl liek arjun singh are associated with congress government...the man responsible for mandal commision and recent happenings in this country relating to quota policy.....
Sonia or for that matter other members of Gandhi family may have been true politicians one would look for but congress party as whole is not some thing i would look for to rule this country.....
its not a person that rules and drives a country....its not a family who has been associated in the independence and generations have served the country in politics rule the country....its a political party as whole which rules the country....and on that account congress doesnt fit....
and this doesnt mean that BJP does :) .....
i think a lot has been talked about these things....i am sure that in recent times this is not the first such discussion between the youth of this country....... when we say that we want to or we should improve this country and make it a better place....then i think the change should start from you..... first be a person like the one who you would like should rule the country....then try to change the surroundings...
it's the system which needs to be fixed....and the system starts from with in each one of us....and ends with in each one of us.....
Sonia or for that matter other members of Gandhi family may have been true politicians one would look for but congress party as whole is not some thing i would look for to rule this country.....
its not a person that rules and drives a country....its not a family who has been associated in the independence and generations have served the country in politics rule the country....its a political party as whole which rules the country....and on that account congress doesnt fit....
and this doesnt mean that BJP does :) .....
i think a lot has been talked about these things....i am sure that in recent times this is not the first such discussion between the youth of this country....... when we say that we want to or we should improve this country and make it a better place....then i think the change should start from you..... first be a person like the one who you would like should rule the country....then try to change the surroundings...
it's the system which needs to be fixed....and the system starts from with in each one of us....and ends with in each one of us.....
You said, 'anti-poor'. My question is: after 50+ years of congress rule, why are we still poor? You said anti national? The BJP is the only party that talks of national integration. It principles are based on India's culture, not Italy's or saudi arabia's. So, how is the BJP anti-national? And what about the great nationalistic (sic) and constitutional (sic) policies of congress like reservations, muslim headcount, shit foreign policies, shit internal policies - and your great lady sonia has not uttered a word on all these issues - how do you call her a hope for the millions?
# posted by : 8:40 AM
: 8:40 AM
Without clarifying her stand on any issue facing the country, how does she enter the ranks of statesmen like the ones you mentioned? By the way, 'Shri' rajiv gandhi was no statesman either. His most famous comment was about the earth shaking when a big tree fell - in defence of the killing of thousands of sikhs by corrupt and selfish congressmen. Other than this and bofors, rajiv is known as a 'dreamer', not a 'doer'.
Of course, the traditions of the gandhi family has always been to keep india poor and undeveloped, so that they can tour the length and breadth of the country. That way, sonia has definitely kept the tradition. If she really has reach to the masses, why did she decline a televised debate with sushma swaraj?
Another tradition of the gandhi family has been to maintain relations with foreign, usually, white skinned people of the opposite sex. nehru, rajiv and now rahul are definitely continuing the tradition.
By the way, did you ever think why the nation of 1 billion+ needs a leader not brought up in this country? THAT is the biggest proof of congress failure after 50+ years of misrule.
Of course, the traditions of the gandhi family has always been to keep india poor and undeveloped, so that they can tour the length and breadth of the country. That way, sonia has definitely kept the tradition. If she really has reach to the masses, why did she decline a televised debate with sushma swaraj?
Another tradition of the gandhi family has been to maintain relations with foreign, usually, white skinned people of the opposite sex. nehru, rajiv and now rahul are definitely continuing the tradition.
By the way, did you ever think why the nation of 1 billion+ needs a leader not brought up in this country? THAT is the biggest proof of congress failure after 50+ years of misrule.
# posted by : 8:48 AM
: 8:48 AM
You say: the Congress Party can once again claim "its" place as the leading political party of our country. Shouldn't the place be decided on the basis of merit and policies and successful development? How can you claim that the place 'belongs' to congress? Of course, congress has led in many things - corruption, riots, communal and caste divides, overall failure in administration and poverty alleviation, rising crime.
# posted by : 9:53 AM
: 9:53 AM
Again, on the touring front, it was the NDA which sent a PM to the north east first. Also, it was the first time a defence minister visited Siachen. It is these 'travails' that matter, my friend.
# posted by : 12:04 PM
: 12:04 PM
I don't think it requires rumours from anti-congress people to know that congress is anti-sikh. The deaths of thousands of sikhs in the hands of congressmen is proof enough.
# posted by : 12:09 PM
: 12:09 PM
Sonia gave up her post simply because at that time she could not facce questions even from novice reporters. The NDA would have had a field day. THAT is why it was advised that she step down. And the sikh you are talking of was the ONLY credible face in the whole party. Of course, trust the congress to turn challenges into opportunities - they still play the sacrifice card - and the people kept ignorant by them bleieve it. :-(
# posted by : 12:14 PM
: 12:14 PM
Coming back to indira dying in her arms, the white skin affection and self hatred runs in the family. Menaka Gandhi had to change her name to Maneka because Indira did not approve of her daughter in law's name (remember the courtesan who seduced Vishwamitra).
# posted by : 12:17 PM
: 12:17 PM
You said she had 'other' responsibilities. Can you please enumerate her other responsibilites? What other things is she doing for the italian mafia other than helping quattrocci escape, WITH THE FUNDS, if I may add.
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You may have reason to celebrate. Italy won. Congress workers in Patna even did a yajna before the match, praying for Italy. They were on TV stating that Italy was the 'mama's house' of rahul baba. Mama Mia!!!
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You may have reason to celebrate. Italy won. Congress workers in Patna even did a yajna before the match, praying for Italy. They were on TV stating that Italy was the 'mama's house' of rahul baba. Mama Mia!!!
# posted by : 12:20 PM
: 12:20 PM
When did Sushma threaten suicide? A search in google leads to many results but none about Sushma threatening suicide.
# posted by : 12:22 PM
: 12:22 PM
By the way, Sushma Swaraj is one who has had the guts to oppose reservation. We are still waiting to hear Sonia's opinion on the issue. :-)) And by the way again, I have never seen Sushma clad in saffron.
# posted by : 12:23 PM
: 12:23 PM
Or even if she was (e.g., Uma is), what's wrong with it? In Hinduism, the saffron colour has spiritual significance. So, why this self-hatred? Saffron is our own colour. We should be proud, not ashamed of it.
# posted by : 12:25 PM
: 12:25 PM
Thanks a lot Kaushik for giving your valuable insight to the 'story'. Will provide my inputs tomorrow. I just read them and its too late now. My blog never had so many comments. :)
What political achievement are you talking of? She came here in 1980, if I am not wrong. Yet, she did not apply for Indian citizensihp until 1983. Why three years to decide which country you want to belong to? And even after staying in India for 26 years (a good half of her life), she cannot speak even ONE Indian language comfortably (and that incloodes Eengleesh). For that matter, she cannot even read the dewanaagari script. 26 years!!! After another of her 'sacrificing' acts that ended in her re-winning the post she had 'sacrificed', she took oath thus: '... main pratigyaan kartee hoon...'. Pratigyaan??? isn't it pratijnaa? 'j' and 'n', the 8th and 10th consonants, meet to produce the sound of 'jn', popularly used in 'jnaana', incorrectly pronounced 'gyaan'. Now, even if she had said 'pratigyaa' as is common, it would not have given the game away. But 'pratigyaan'??? She's obviously reading Roman. Isn't Rome the capital of Italy??? :-)) Weak pun but intended.
# posted by : 12:34 PM
: 12:34 PM
f course, if she were a great leader, I wouldn't mind which language she speaks. But that not being the case, I wonder how she would communicate with people she intends to rule? How will she address the nation in case there is a need for the same?
# posted by : 12:35 PM
: 12:35 PM
>>that people would back Sonia and congress 'solely' because of their history !! <<
Well, this is the version that the congressis themselves give. Therefore, it is fully intended to be digested. We do not hear things like advani pariwar or vajpayee pariwaar. we only hear gandhi pariwaar. Why?
Well, this is the version that the congressis themselves give. Therefore, it is fully intended to be digested. We do not hear things like advani pariwar or vajpayee pariwaar. we only hear gandhi pariwaar. Why?
# posted by : 12:37 PM
: 12:37 PM
What fruits of power are being enjoyed by Rahul and priyanka? They have top category security, for one. They have occupied 10, Janpath unethically. That is the residence of the PM which these people aren't. Why doesn't she sacrifice this place?
# posted by : 12:39 PM
: 12:39 PM
If you still don't think our most educated PM is a puppet PM, then would you like to see him dance on strings to believe so? Tell me one decision that he has taken against the petty congress thieves. In the reservation issue, instead of telling arjun not to go about things this way, he told the doctors on strike not to go about things their way. What a weak PM we have. Not only is he an insult to the Sikh community but to India as a whole. He has no righteousness. He only speaks to defend wrongs of the congress. Of course, of late, the congress party made several amendments to the constitution. None were aimed at bettering the nation. They were either aimed at protecting Sonia (the office of profit issue) or to build vote banks (IMDT Act, reservation). Meanwhile, there continues to be an education cess (and we still need reservation!!!), a cash withdrawal tax and such other stupid policies.
# posted by : 12:46 PM
: 12:46 PM
Educational backgrounds mean nothing. If after being so educated, he has to dance to the tunes of laloos and mulayams, he is not exactly presenting a great case for education anyway, notwithstanding reservations.
# posted by : 12:48 PM
: 12:48 PM
Why should our most educated PM 'consult' a least educated italian brought up woman on Indian affairs??? Again, Manmohan and you are not exactly presenting a great case for education.
# posted by : 12:50 PM
: 12:50 PM
What do you mean by neutral point of view? Does neutrality mean supporting wrongs just for being neutral??? Like our support for palestine and Iran and opposition of Israel? Our non-aligned status made the US wary of us and we thus created our own enemies in pakistan and china. Of course, the smart chinese did not believe our non-alignedness. They simply hated nehru and attacked us.
# posted by : 12:53 PM
: 12:53 PM
How can you stay neutral after so many 'achievements' of the congress party in just 2 years, arijit???
# posted by : 12:54 PM
: 12:54 PM
Mind you, India is the largest democracy, not the smartest one. Even palestine became a democracy recently by conducting elections. Same with Iran. But they elected terrorists to power. And democracy is a farce in india, largely perpetrated by congress for over half a century. They kept people uneducated, ignorant and then give them the power to vote... WOW!!! Good, no? That way, the votes can be bought simply with a little money or clothes or alcohol. But hey, when it comes to televised debates, the real test of democracy, sonia is not game. And she doesn't even come and say she isn't game. She makes her cronies announce it for her.
# posted by : 12:59 PM
: 12:59 PM
Who chose congress to be the ruling party??? A large number of educated people, including us, DO NOT VOTE. So, are you trying to say that votes being bought with alcohol from the deliberately kept poor is an achievement???
# posted by : 1:00 PM
: 1:00 PM
In terms of percentage, the BJP has more votes. And there was no UPA before the elections. They made all the saanth gaanth after the elections after gaalifying each other in the polls. So, how do you say that the people voted for congress? Many of them might have voted against congress, little knowing that the parties they voted for would join congress for cheap seats and ministerial berths.
# posted by : 1:03 PM
: 1:03 PM
It doesn't take much to win from rae bareilly after 'sacrificing' the same post, does it? And your most educated PM also has a backdoor entry, by the way. :-))
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These congress guys were so negative. The only govt that promoted India was the NDA one. Roads, infrastructure, telecom (includes Internet through which you are able to write this blog), everything was developing. So, how would the congress win? Negativity is the answer. They started saying: India shining? then how is this man poor???
Funny, really. You keep the poeple poor for 50 years and then blame the other party for not making every poor person rich!!!
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These congress guys were so negative. The only govt that promoted India was the NDA one. Roads, infrastructure, telecom (includes Internet through which you are able to write this blog), everything was developing. So, how would the congress win? Negativity is the answer. They started saying: India shining? then how is this man poor???
Funny, really. You keep the poeple poor for 50 years and then blame the other party for not making every poor person rich!!!
# posted by : 1:08 PM
: 1:08 PM
>>>Just that we are expecting it to wake too fast which unfortunately is not possible. <<<
Exactly, Arijit. The NDA was waking it up. But the congress did exactly what you mentioned here. They made the progress look too slow. Bloody negative dynastic rulers.
Oh, and by the way, if we do not become a banana republic with all the casteism and communalism being promoted, what will we become?
Exactly, Arijit. The NDA was waking it up. But the congress did exactly what you mentioned here. They made the progress look too slow. Bloody negative dynastic rulers.
Oh, and by the way, if we do not become a banana republic with all the casteism and communalism being promoted, what will we become?
# posted by : 1:11 PM
: 1:11 PM
>>>Just that we are expecting it to wake too fast which unfortunately is not possible. <<<
Exactly, Arijit. The NDA was waking it up. But the congress did exactly what you mentioned here. They made the progress look too slow. Bloody negative dynastic rulers.
Oh, and by the way, if we do not become a banana republic with all the casteism and communalism being promoted, what will we become?
Exactly, Arijit. The NDA was waking it up. But the congress did exactly what you mentioned here. They made the progress look too slow. Bloody negative dynastic rulers.
Oh, and by the way, if we do not become a banana republic with all the casteism and communalism being promoted, what will we become?
# posted by : 1:11 PM
: 1:11 PM
Forget Atal. The real progress was done by their workers with help from RSS cadres. Of course, you need to know baout RSS to respect them. Instead, congress chose to ban the only org in independent India. The congress also banned 'me nathuram godse boltoy' and 'lajja' and 'Satanic verses'. They want us to read only what they want us to believe. There is no spirit of discussion, looking at the other side of the coin, and you call them democratic??? One of the most fascist organisations in India - the congress. Nehru, Indira - they all ran the aprty as their personal fiefdom. The traditions are surely being continued, Arijit.
# posted by : 1:17 PM
: 1:17 PM
Atal insane??? Well, this insane person thought of the GQ and because of his initiative, we have good roads in many parts of India (which the congress could not provide in 50 years). Of course, if roads are better, it means fuel efficiency, cost effectiveness, controlled prices and inflation. How can the congress have it? So, what do they do? They scrap the GQ project. :-( After all, people ceasing to remain poor would mean loss of votes to congress.
# posted by : 1:20 PM
: 1:20 PM
Yes Kaushik one of the things you have pointed out right is that Gandhi family maintaining good relations with foreign people unlike the ‘LEADERS’ of BJP who think India as the World and Hindutva as the word to all success. They are like the Frog in the well who can only see whats above them and never bothers to come out. Thing Big. Only then something can be achieved.
I have no idea how did u conclude that its Gandhi family’s tradition to keep India poor. Must have read some anti-Gandhi/Congress website hosted by some BJP freak.
I could find no correlation of reaching the masses and having a TV debate with the blabberbox. Everyone has his/her own way to reach the masses. BJP People love media publicity. I don’t think you have seen Sonia giving interviews often.
When u say that Congress is behind all this - corruption, riots, communal and caste divides, overall failure in administration and poverty alleviation and rising crime have you even looked behind and seen what BJP have done ? Its BJP who hides behind Hindutva and doesn’t even knows what the word Shekular (oh or is it Secular) means and you say Congress doing Cast divides? What base do you have when u say Congress is behind riots and rising crime?
And I will point this again and again, when the country wants her who the hell are you ?
I have no idea how did u conclude that its Gandhi family’s tradition to keep India poor. Must have read some anti-Gandhi/Congress website hosted by some BJP freak.
I could find no correlation of reaching the masses and having a TV debate with the blabberbox. Everyone has his/her own way to reach the masses. BJP People love media publicity. I don’t think you have seen Sonia giving interviews often.
When u say that Congress is behind all this - corruption, riots, communal and caste divides, overall failure in administration and poverty alleviation and rising crime have you even looked behind and seen what BJP have done ? Its BJP who hides behind Hindutva and doesn’t even knows what the word Shekular (oh or is it Secular) means and you say Congress doing Cast divides? What base do you have when u say Congress is behind riots and rising crime?
And I will point this again and again, when the country wants her who the hell are you ?
If Indira died in her pet dog's arms, would you make the dog our PM? :-)) ..
Dear Kaushik, try to find the meaning of the statements I made against which you tried to find some weird corelation.
In the same logic i would clarify your story.
If a dog kills Indira Gandhi and she dies in Sonia's arms and still Sonia makes a dog our PM, then it proves that she doesnt hates dogs.. ..
making sense now ? :)
Dear Kaushik, try to find the meaning of the statements I made against which you tried to find some weird corelation.
In the same logic i would clarify your story.
If a dog kills Indira Gandhi and she dies in Sonia's arms and still Sonia makes a dog our PM, then it proves that she doesnt hates dogs.. ..
making sense now ? :)
Having heard of this change in name issue as yet. Please lemme know if you have any resource that says this. And even if its true, how the hell is this related to Self hatred and the seducer Menaka.. ?? O lord Kaushik you might as well try to join politics. You have the right inference track that the BJP wants. Trivia for BJP and Kaushik :
Find out the similarity and differences between an underwear and the Nitro fuel.
Find out the similarity and differences between an underwear and the Nitro fuel.
In Hinduism, the saffron colour has spiritual significance. So, why this self-hatred? Saffron is our own colour. We should be proud, not ashamed of it.
In my post did i mention that I hate Hinduism ? What i mentions was I hate "ONLY HINDUISM". Is the difference clear to you ? I am a Hindu and I am proud of it but not by means of demeaning other religions.
In my post did i mention that I hate Hinduism ? What i mentions was I hate "ONLY HINDUISM". Is the difference clear to you ? I am a Hindu and I am proud of it but not by means of demeaning other religions.
You dont hear and vajpayee or advani pariwar simply cos they dont have any ? I am sure half of even the BJP supporters wont be knowing about Atal's whereabouts. Secondly do a google search with the String "bjp against secularism" and read the first 5-6 articles. You would feel really proud of the saffron colour and the Sangh pariwar. Oh Eureka !! So even BJP can boast of a Parivar now.
Yeah Kaushik this logic of yours was amazing that the reason Congress is in power is becuase "WE DONT VOTE" and all those in this WE are BJPites you mean to say and allllll Congress people vote (3 votes each maybe huh .. ??) I dont remember any news of Congress buying votes of Alcohol.. ( Ha ha it was a nice one ) ... U lately subscribing to Punjab Kesari or something ? Regarding Palesting, they BECAME democrats and we ALWAYS WERE since our independance. You cannot BECOME a democrat just by voting. Its actually whats going inside you. People there count each day of their lives and every night thank god for giving them the opportunity to see one more day.
Kaushik you really want me to believe that all these people who voted for congress (or consumed Alcohol given by Congress) didnt think about all this CRAP you have written ? India is not that bad that people are killed if they go with their thoughts. And please explain me the means by which you can force people to remain ignorant and away from the truth. BJP always sucked bigtime and now I dont know whether there would ever be a BJP rule again. You can always pray, wearing a Safron T-Shirt might help in your spiritual thinking. And ya the last one Last night i dreamt of Atal doing that "Bhaktjanon act" done originally by Sunil Pal. He was better - trust me. :)
Hi Arijit! I happened to chance upon your blog through orkut. It's pretty interesting!
Have you ever noticed how the BJP and RSS only know how to make issues out of non issues? Sonia Gandhi's foreign origin, her supposed inability to speak good hindi(which I think is bullshit-her hindi is fairly decent!), Rahul Gandhi's white girlfriend, dynastic politics, etc are the things they focus on. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REAL ISSUES?
Most of their politicians are so unpolished, crass and brash. Have you noticed the way they shout and scream on talk shows/debates? People like Uma Bharti and Sushma Swaraj behave in such an uncouth, uncultured manner- threatening to shave one's head and dress in white and sleep on the floor, Narendra Modi calling Sonia an Italian bitch and stating very proudly that he would never hire Rahul to even be his driver... i mean...what kind of bull crap is that? I'D RATHER HAVE AN ITALIAN PRIME MINISTER THAN HAVE SOMEONE LIKE UMA BHARTI/NARENDRA MODI RULE MY COUNTRY. AND NO, THAT DOES NOT MAKE ME LESS PATRIOTIC THAT ANYONE ELSE! I LOVE MY COUNTRY AND I WOULDNT WANT A GROSSLY INCOMPETENT, INTOLERANT, UNCOUTH PM!
These people go on about how Manmohan Singh is a puppet in Sonia's hands. WHY ARE THEY COMPLAINING NOW? They shot themselves in the leg when Sonia won the elections and decided not to become PM. They didnt want her as PM- FINE! SHE ISN'T! NOW CAN THESE PEOPLE GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON TO REAL ISSUES INSTEAD OF DRAGGING SONIA INTO EVERYTHING?
I found the point about how "Congress won because 'WE' don't vote" very amusing. First, even in urban settings, THERE ARE TOLERANT PEOPLE WHO CANNOT STAND THE BJP/RSS IDEOLOGY! So a lot of us would STILL vote for the Congress/Left. Secondly, "WE" comprise a very very small percentage of the total population! The millions of people out there, languishing in poverty are NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR A PARTY THAT ONLY STANDS UP FOR THE RICH, AND SO CALLED UPPER CLASS!
Why is secularism seen as anti-hinduism? Why is there so much insecurity about the present government being anti-hindu? Even with a Muslim President, Sikh PM who is allegedly controlled by a Catholic woman, HOW CAN ANY GOVERNMENT EVER BE ANTI-HINDU IN A COUNTRY LIKE INDIA?
The BJP should learn to be less emotional about things and not get lost in irrelevant issues. We need to progress as a country and progress is not about some people getting ahead and the majority of the people in the country still living in the darkness of poverty, illiteracy, unemployment, etc. Maybe if the BJP decided to focus on these things for once, they'd be able to play the role of a responsible opposition effectively!
Have you ever noticed how the BJP and RSS only know how to make issues out of non issues? Sonia Gandhi's foreign origin, her supposed inability to speak good hindi(which I think is bullshit-her hindi is fairly decent!), Rahul Gandhi's white girlfriend, dynastic politics, etc are the things they focus on. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE REAL ISSUES?
Most of their politicians are so unpolished, crass and brash. Have you noticed the way they shout and scream on talk shows/debates? People like Uma Bharti and Sushma Swaraj behave in such an uncouth, uncultured manner- threatening to shave one's head and dress in white and sleep on the floor, Narendra Modi calling Sonia an Italian bitch and stating very proudly that he would never hire Rahul to even be his driver... i mean...what kind of bull crap is that? I'D RATHER HAVE AN ITALIAN PRIME MINISTER THAN HAVE SOMEONE LIKE UMA BHARTI/NARENDRA MODI RULE MY COUNTRY. AND NO, THAT DOES NOT MAKE ME LESS PATRIOTIC THAT ANYONE ELSE! I LOVE MY COUNTRY AND I WOULDNT WANT A GROSSLY INCOMPETENT, INTOLERANT, UNCOUTH PM!
These people go on about how Manmohan Singh is a puppet in Sonia's hands. WHY ARE THEY COMPLAINING NOW? They shot themselves in the leg when Sonia won the elections and decided not to become PM. They didnt want her as PM- FINE! SHE ISN'T! NOW CAN THESE PEOPLE GET OVER IT AND MOVE ON TO REAL ISSUES INSTEAD OF DRAGGING SONIA INTO EVERYTHING?
I found the point about how "Congress won because 'WE' don't vote" very amusing. First, even in urban settings, THERE ARE TOLERANT PEOPLE WHO CANNOT STAND THE BJP/RSS IDEOLOGY! So a lot of us would STILL vote for the Congress/Left. Secondly, "WE" comprise a very very small percentage of the total population! The millions of people out there, languishing in poverty are NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR A PARTY THAT ONLY STANDS UP FOR THE RICH, AND SO CALLED UPPER CLASS!
Why is secularism seen as anti-hinduism? Why is there so much insecurity about the present government being anti-hindu? Even with a Muslim President, Sikh PM who is allegedly controlled by a Catholic woman, HOW CAN ANY GOVERNMENT EVER BE ANTI-HINDU IN A COUNTRY LIKE INDIA?
The BJP should learn to be less emotional about things and not get lost in irrelevant issues. We need to progress as a country and progress is not about some people getting ahead and the majority of the people in the country still living in the darkness of poverty, illiteracy, unemployment, etc. Maybe if the BJP decided to focus on these things for once, they'd be able to play the role of a responsible opposition effectively!
# posted by : 9:15 AM
: 9:15 AM
hey anisha.. very nice comment. truely agree with you. rather than looking into the Congress BJP fight, i guess the people should look for something in the positive direction.. be it any party .. (yeah i mean Congress.. is there any other party as well which can control India and make it SHINE without the use of the INDIA SHINING POSTERS and ADS ? :))))
>>India as the World and Hindutva as the word to all success. <<
India is not the world but HInduism is definitely India. The very word Hindu means people on this side of the Indus - which is India. So, all Indians should be Hindus - with the variety our own culture offers.
Frog in the well? By printing '40 years of freedom' and 'mera bharat mahaan' stickers, using crores of rupees in poor India is not a frog in the well siuation for you? Can you give me an example of the frog in the well wrt BJP?
You say, think big to achieve. That is exactly what was being done in the NDA tenure. And can you tell me ONE BIG thought that arose from the congress stable?
India is not the world but HInduism is definitely India. The very word Hindu means people on this side of the Indus - which is India. So, all Indians should be Hindus - with the variety our own culture offers.
Frog in the well? By printing '40 years of freedom' and 'mera bharat mahaan' stickers, using crores of rupees in poor India is not a frog in the well siuation for you? Can you give me an example of the frog in the well wrt BJP?
You say, think big to achieve. That is exactly what was being done in the NDA tenure. And can you tell me ONE BIG thought that arose from the congress stable?
# posted by : 11:03 AM
: 11:03 AM
>>I have no idea how did u conclude that its Gandhi family’s tradition to keep India poor. Must have read some anti-Gandhi/Congress website hosted by some BJP freak.<<
I don't think it requires a lot of analysis to see that 50 years of congress kept India poor. And I have read material by retired militarymen and IAS officers that mentioned the autocratic ways of the nehru family. And what's wrong if I read material by a BJP freak either? What makes YOU conclude that such material would not be right?
I don't think it requires a lot of analysis to see that 50 years of congress kept India poor. And I have read material by retired militarymen and IAS officers that mentioned the autocratic ways of the nehru family. And what's wrong if I read material by a BJP freak either? What makes YOU conclude that such material would not be right?
# posted by : 11:05 AM
: 11:05 AM
>>I could find no correlation of reaching the masses and having a TV debate with the blabberbox. Everyone has his/her own way to reach the masses. BJP People love media publicity. I don’t think you have seen Sonia giving interviews often.<<
She doesn't give interviews often because SHE CANNOT.
She appears comfortable only in NDTV like congress paid channels which give her an award for person of the year for doing nothing.
How do you propose to get FDI and FII into India without media publicity??? THAT is what the BJP did - instilled pride in being Indians - not western and Arabic clones that the affluent were becoming in congress times. And your congress freaks are the ones who claim that the BJP is after publicity. They gave half page ads mentioning their ACHIEVEMENTS. These congressis give full page ads showing the photogenic faces of rajiv and rahul and sonia and nehru and indira. In essence, are they trying to say that they will repeat nehru's and indira's mistakes and keep dreaming like rajiv?
She doesn't give interviews often because SHE CANNOT.
She appears comfortable only in NDTV like congress paid channels which give her an award for person of the year for doing nothing.
How do you propose to get FDI and FII into India without media publicity??? THAT is what the BJP did - instilled pride in being Indians - not western and Arabic clones that the affluent were becoming in congress times. And your congress freaks are the ones who claim that the BJP is after publicity. They gave half page ads mentioning their ACHIEVEMENTS. These congressis give full page ads showing the photogenic faces of rajiv and rahul and sonia and nehru and indira. In essence, are they trying to say that they will repeat nehru's and indira's mistakes and keep dreaming like rajiv?
# posted by : 11:05 AM
: 11:05 AM
And this blabberbox is one of the few who blabbered against reservation - which your sonia and educated pm have not yet done.
Why don't you find a relation wrt the televised debate? You call sonia the hope of millions but she is afraid that an open debate will show her real face and expose her incapacity to lead. If she cannot face viewers on TV defending her party in a healthy comparison, on what basis are you calling her a hope for millions?
Why don't you find a relation wrt the televised debate? You call sonia the hope of millions but she is afraid that an open debate will show her real face and expose her incapacity to lead. If she cannot face viewers on TV defending her party in a healthy comparison, on what basis are you calling her a hope for millions?
# posted by : 11:09 AM
: 11:09 AM
>>When u say that Congress is behind all this - corruption, riots, communal and caste divides, overall failure in administration and poverty alleviation and rising crime <<
Open your eyes and see what has happened in 50 + years of congress rule. It is the facts speaking for themselves, not I.
Open your eyes and see what has happened in 50 + years of congress rule. It is the facts speaking for themselves, not I.
# posted by : 11:10 AM
: 11:10 AM
>>have you even looked behind and seen what BJP have done ? Its BJP who hides behind Hindutva and doesn’t even knows what the word Shekular (oh or is it Secular) means and you say Congress doing Cast divides? What base do you have when u say Congress is behind riots and rising crime?<<
You have lived in Delhi and might never have seen or heard of riot (except the killing of sikhs again in the hands of congressmen). Come to places like Bihar and you'll know what the congress has done. The congress administrations were more corrupt than laloo - laloo was worse because he simply didn't care. and corruption went deep inside public life. WHO DO YOU THINK IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CORRUPTION IN INDIA - 55 YEARS OF CONGRESS RULE OR 5 YEARS OF NDA RULE?
The BJP is not HIDING BEHIND HINDUTVA. IT IS THE ONLY PARTY THAT SPEAKS FOR THE PROTECTION OF HINDUISM, OUR OWN CULTURE. wHY DO WE NEED TO 'HIDE BEHIND' WHAT IS OUR OWN? YOU SEEM TO HAVE A LOT OF SELF-HATRED.
PRAY TELL ME - WHAT IS SECULARISM??? DO YOU CALL MINORITY APPEASEMENT SECULARISM? TEMPLS ARE TAXED AND THAT TAX MONEY IS USED TO MAINTAIN MOSQUES? ACTS LIKE TADA ARE REPEALED BECAUSE MUSLIMS WERE GETTING CAUGHT. CRORES OF HAJ SUBSIDY IS GIVEN BUT NO SUBSIDY IS GIVEN FOR HINDU PILGRIMS IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY. YOU CALL THIS SECULARISM? WE CALL IT SICKULARISM.
BJP is the only secular party which your congress is not. your congress treats people based on religion. It has different sets of rules for different religions' followers. do you call this secularism? On the other hand, the BJP is the only party that talks of a uniform civil code which your congress opposes and calls itself secular?
You have lived in Delhi and might never have seen or heard of riot (except the killing of sikhs again in the hands of congressmen). Come to places like Bihar and you'll know what the congress has done. The congress administrations were more corrupt than laloo - laloo was worse because he simply didn't care. and corruption went deep inside public life. WHO DO YOU THINK IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CORRUPTION IN INDIA - 55 YEARS OF CONGRESS RULE OR 5 YEARS OF NDA RULE?
The BJP is not HIDING BEHIND HINDUTVA. IT IS THE ONLY PARTY THAT SPEAKS FOR THE PROTECTION OF HINDUISM, OUR OWN CULTURE. wHY DO WE NEED TO 'HIDE BEHIND' WHAT IS OUR OWN? YOU SEEM TO HAVE A LOT OF SELF-HATRED.
PRAY TELL ME - WHAT IS SECULARISM??? DO YOU CALL MINORITY APPEASEMENT SECULARISM? TEMPLS ARE TAXED AND THAT TAX MONEY IS USED TO MAINTAIN MOSQUES? ACTS LIKE TADA ARE REPEALED BECAUSE MUSLIMS WERE GETTING CAUGHT. CRORES OF HAJ SUBSIDY IS GIVEN BUT NO SUBSIDY IS GIVEN FOR HINDU PILGRIMS IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY. YOU CALL THIS SECULARISM? WE CALL IT SICKULARISM.
BJP is the only secular party which your congress is not. your congress treats people based on religion. It has different sets of rules for different religions' followers. do you call this secularism? On the other hand, the BJP is the only party that talks of a uniform civil code which your congress opposes and calls itself secular?
# posted by : 11:10 AM
: 11:10 AM
>>And I will point this again and again, when the country wants her who the hell are you ?<<
And who the hell are you to decide that the country wants her? Show me the facts. As I said, the NDA got more votes than the congress - so kindly tell me the basis on which you proclaimed that the country wants her. I also mentioned earlier that people like US SIMPLY DO NOT VOTE. So, imagine the number of people who DO NOT WANT HER. If PEOPLE WANTED HER, DO YOU THINK THE CUNNING CONGRESSIS WOULD NOT HAVE MADE HER PM? WHY DID THEY HAVE THI SACRIFICE DRAMA IF THE COUNTRY WANTED HER??? THINK, THINK. DON'T JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS.
And who the hell are you to decide that the country wants her? Show me the facts. As I said, the NDA got more votes than the congress - so kindly tell me the basis on which you proclaimed that the country wants her. I also mentioned earlier that people like US SIMPLY DO NOT VOTE. So, imagine the number of people who DO NOT WANT HER. If PEOPLE WANTED HER, DO YOU THINK THE CUNNING CONGRESSIS WOULD NOT HAVE MADE HER PM? WHY DID THEY HAVE THI SACRIFICE DRAMA IF THE COUNTRY WANTED HER??? THINK, THINK. DON'T JUMP TO CONCLUSIONS.
# posted by : 11:14 AM
: 11:14 AM
You have used the folowing phrase: 'LEADERS' of BJP. Well, yes, the leaders of BJP led - which your congress leaders aren't doing. your lead man, when asked about important developments like the governor issue and others, simply says: 'I DON"T KNOW'!!!!!!!!!
# posted by : 11:16 AM
: 11:16 AM
Your 'lead' woman cannot face interviews. She reads answers from a paper in press conferences.
# posted by : 11:17 AM
: 11:17 AM
As far as your dog story is concerned, why mention that she died in Sonia's arms? That was not in the context. Now, you need to read my comment again and understand why I made it.
Again, I can see that you are equating one sikh with another which goes to show you are a true congressi sickular freak who deals with people not on their merit but their religio
Again, I can see that you are equating one sikh with another which goes to show you are a true congressi sickular freak who deals with people not on their merit but their religio
# posted by : 12:01 PM
: 12:01 PM
As far as your dog story is concerned, why mention that she died in Sonia's arms? That was not in the context. Now, you need to read my comment again and understand why I made it.
Again, I can see that you are equating one sikh with another which goes to show you are a true congressi sickular freak who deals with people not on their merit but their religion. THIS ITSELF IS REASON ENOUGH TO BAN CONGRESS.
Again, I can see that you are equating one sikh with another which goes to show you are a true congressi sickular freak who deals with people not on their merit but their religion. THIS ITSELF IS REASON ENOUGH TO BAN CONGRESS.
# posted by : 12:01 PM
: 12:01 PM
I read about the 'name change' on rediff. Search their archives or google. You'll have a lot of info.
>>Incidentally, Sanjay's marriage with the Sikh girl Menaka (now they call her Maneka for Indira Gandhi found the name of Lord Indra's court dancer rather offensive!)<<
http://vlbjcas.com/Articles.htm
http://india.indymedia.org/en/2003/07/6255.shtml
http://india.indymedia.org/en/2003/07/5885.shtml
http://www.mouthshut.com/review/Government_of_India-95472-1.html
http://www.nsitlounge.in/bb/index.php?s=b8df6db77dee2a42e9f3ab0319d3b741&showtopic=4386&pid=27557&st=0&#entry27557
http://blog.gauravjain.in/index.php/2006/05/02/nehru-gandhi-family-tree/
http://msu.edu/~dhargaut/Links/Nehrus.htm
http://stories.catcha.com/my/channels/my/display_nl.phtml?view=4379
http://www.hindunet.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=animals&Number=2676&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=all
http://o3.indiatimes.com/rediscoveringindia/archive/2005/11/18/338882.aspx
It is self-hatred because the character of Menaka belongs to our lore while Sonia is a white foreigner. Remember the white skin affiliation of the nehru parivar?
So, what's wrong if I join politics? My thoughts are clear as to how India should be. My inference track is not only right for BJP but for India, too. On the other hand, you have been brainwashed by congress and you can win elections only in a congress stronghold.
>>Incidentally, Sanjay's marriage with the Sikh girl Menaka (now they call her Maneka for Indira Gandhi found the name of Lord Indra's court dancer rather offensive!)<<
http://vlbjcas.com/Articles.htm
http://india.indymedia.org/en/2003/07/6255.shtml
http://india.indymedia.org/en/2003/07/5885.shtml
http://www.mouthshut.com/review/Government_of_India-95472-1.html
http://www.nsitlounge.in/bb/index.php?s=b8df6db77dee2a42e9f3ab0319d3b741&showtopic=4386&pid=27557&st=0&#entry27557
http://blog.gauravjain.in/index.php/2006/05/02/nehru-gandhi-family-tree/
http://msu.edu/~dhargaut/Links/Nehrus.htm
http://stories.catcha.com/my/channels/my/display_nl.phtml?view=4379
http://www.hindunet.com/forum/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=animals&Number=2676&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=&fpart=all
http://o3.indiatimes.com/rediscoveringindia/archive/2005/11/18/338882.aspx
It is self-hatred because the character of Menaka belongs to our lore while Sonia is a white foreigner. Remember the white skin affiliation of the nehru parivar?
So, what's wrong if I join politics? My thoughts are clear as to how India should be. My inference track is not only right for BJP but for India, too. On the other hand, you have been brainwashed by congress and you can win elections only in a congress stronghold.
# posted by : 12:02 PM
: 12:02 PM
>>What i mentions was I hate "ONLY HINDUISM"<<
There is nothing like only hindootwa. Hindootwa is pluralistic in itself, secular in itself - that does not mean that we should be taken advantage of and secularism be imposed on us.
Hinduism is not an umbrella for people to group under and dominate others - see the success of parsis, a minuscule population, in hindu majority India. Hindutwa in Tamil Nadu is different from that in Punjab; in Assam, it is different from that in Maharashtra. Hindutwa is not a fixed religion - it represents the 'local' culture everywhere. What we are against is the attack on this local culture in the name of foreign cultures.
And you talk of demeaning other religions? Please have a look at www.faithfreedom.org for starters - read it in detail and you'll come to know which religions try to demean others. At present, it is you who is not clear about the difference.
There is nothing like only hindootwa. Hindootwa is pluralistic in itself, secular in itself - that does not mean that we should be taken advantage of and secularism be imposed on us.
Hinduism is not an umbrella for people to group under and dominate others - see the success of parsis, a minuscule population, in hindu majority India. Hindutwa in Tamil Nadu is different from that in Punjab; in Assam, it is different from that in Maharashtra. Hindutwa is not a fixed religion - it represents the 'local' culture everywhere. What we are against is the attack on this local culture in the name of foreign cultures.
And you talk of demeaning other religions? Please have a look at www.faithfreedom.org for starters - read it in detail and you'll come to know which religions try to demean others. At present, it is you who is not clear about the difference.
# posted by : 12:02 PM
: 12:02 PM
Advani has a family, Vajpayee does not have a direct line but has relatives all the same. His grandson was killed by being pushed off the train by hooligans - what do you think the reaction would be if the same happened to rahl gandhi? remember 1984???
The sangh pariwar is a family of people from all over India - they are not descendants of one family. Get the difference clear - don't go by words. In the sangh, the leader's son does not become the leader and there are no cronies waiting to make a foreign educated child the next PM of India (by the way, couldn't your pariwaar make India's education good enough for its own members to study here???)
The sangh pariwar is a family of people from all over India - they are not descendants of one family. Get the difference clear - don't go by words. In the sangh, the leader's son does not become the leader and there are no cronies waiting to make a foreign educated child the next PM of India (by the way, couldn't your pariwaar make India's education good enough for its own members to study here???)
# posted by : 12:03 PM
: 12:03 PM
Once again, you are pointing towards secualrism - there are several points here, so let us start by defining secularism fist, then I will tell you how BJP is secular and congress isn't.
# posted by : 12:03 PM
: 12:03 PM
Arijit, step out of delhi and you'll know how elections are won by congressis. In punjab elctions last time, just outside the polling booth, there were two stalls of free alcohol. People drank, got in and voted for congress. The story in other states is not very different.
Yes, WE are the BJP voters - so, what do you think - we do not have a right to vote? and we should gift your incompetent leader a post on the platter? 3 votes? Come on prove it to me that we give three votes each. This is an outrageous allegation coming from a congressi under whose prty's rule, booth grabbing became a phenomenon. How many votes do you give? 300 each? I know people back home who have done that for congress and the third (class) parties.
in fact, in 1995 and 2000, laloo made sure that names of BJP strong areas were simply pulled off the electoral list. Both members and supporters of BJP are more educated compared to other parties.
In fact, I find it strange that grown ups in India are unawae of the kind of corruptin that pervades the place - something that does not let good parties win. Do you know that many people did not vote for BJP in 2004 because they came down strongly on corruption?
Yes, WE are the BJP voters - so, what do you think - we do not have a right to vote? and we should gift your incompetent leader a post on the platter? 3 votes? Come on prove it to me that we give three votes each. This is an outrageous allegation coming from a congressi under whose prty's rule, booth grabbing became a phenomenon. How many votes do you give? 300 each? I know people back home who have done that for congress and the third (class) parties.
in fact, in 1995 and 2000, laloo made sure that names of BJP strong areas were simply pulled off the electoral list. Both members and supporters of BJP are more educated compared to other parties.
In fact, I find it strange that grown ups in India are unawae of the kind of corruptin that pervades the place - something that does not let good parties win. Do you know that many people did not vote for BJP in 2004 because they came down strongly on corruption?
# posted by : 12:04 PM
: 12:04 PM
Nice to see a new member in this one. Abhishek, what do u say about the heavy word called Hindutva ? Please dont forget to read the stuff given by Kaushik. Else you wont be able to give your views. Thats a must dude. Go ahead ... :)))
I really see no end to this debate...but I cant resist offering my two cents on the entire issue.... Congress...I mean 50 yrs of Bullshit... I have had enuff of them...As for the BJP..they tried to make up for the '50 yrs loss' in their one singular 5 yrs term.
On any given day...id join 'I HATE SONIA GANDHI' campaign and woulnever ever support her candidature for the coutry's top post(read PM)... I have my reasons for it...coz for fact, she just doesnt give a damn about INDIA... I dont intend to go on and empirically prove this... but certain facts abt her cannot be refuted..its my opinion ..junta out there is entitled to their own.
Again on any give day....Id also suggest that ...that we as a Nation have had enuff of 'Gandhi's' for a lifetime now....having ruled for 50 yrs they havent really got much to show...we probably are worse of bcoz of sum of their policies.(present day ones such as Reservation and ones from the bygone era). I mean for godsake....generation after generation we will not offer this nation to one 'Gandhi' after another...I refuse to believe that there are no other people to better serve this country...
Now If ur still reading this...chances are you would have already jumped the gun and already must have accused me of being pro- BJP....well....guys! heck no...... they are no worse... to start with... they dont know .. how to deliver...yes they did instill pride... but took the sheen of it as well... with all th scams and behind the scenes money mongering....I mean rt now... they dont even have leaders..that one can look upto....leave alone vote for...here...not for one moment am I suggesting that..congress and the allied have people worthy of 'voting' for..or so to say any less scamsters!!!
My problem is today....I live in a nation where the choice is not between the good and the bad..... but is one between 'worse' and 'wors-est'. Now that sum kinda choice..I mean FCUK!... whom do u vote for when u know... they all are togeather on issues..such as Pro-Reservation.
On any given day...id join 'I HATE SONIA GANDHI' campaign and woulnever ever support her candidature for the coutry's top post(read PM)... I have my reasons for it...coz for fact, she just doesnt give a damn about INDIA... I dont intend to go on and empirically prove this... but certain facts abt her cannot be refuted..its my opinion ..junta out there is entitled to their own.
Again on any give day....Id also suggest that ...that we as a Nation have had enuff of 'Gandhi's' for a lifetime now....having ruled for 50 yrs they havent really got much to show...we probably are worse of bcoz of sum of their policies.(present day ones such as Reservation and ones from the bygone era). I mean for godsake....generation after generation we will not offer this nation to one 'Gandhi' after another...I refuse to believe that there are no other people to better serve this country...
Now If ur still reading this...chances are you would have already jumped the gun and already must have accused me of being pro- BJP....well....guys! heck no...... they are no worse... to start with... they dont know .. how to deliver...yes they did instill pride... but took the sheen of it as well... with all th scams and behind the scenes money mongering....I mean rt now... they dont even have leaders..that one can look upto....leave alone vote for...here...not for one moment am I suggesting that..congress and the allied have people worthy of 'voting' for..or so to say any less scamsters!!!
My problem is today....I live in a nation where the choice is not between the good and the bad..... but is one between 'worse' and 'wors-est'. Now that sum kinda choice..I mean FCUK!... whom do u vote for when u know... they all are togeather on issues..such as Pro-Reservation.
Who told you we were democrats since independence? congress has made us a mobocratic state - they will do whatever the most violent group wants. That is also how elections are won.
>>You cannot BECOME a democrat just by voting<<
Exactly... that is why we are far from being a democracy - there are fools blindly voting for congress, some because congress gave us independence (this itself is arguable but it makes me cry to see people believe it and then vote for congress based on this).
>>People there count each day of their lives and every night thank god for giving them the opportunity to see one more day.<<
So, who has made the situation thus for them? They themselves have.
>>You cannot BECOME a democrat just by voting<<
Exactly... that is why we are far from being a democracy - there are fools blindly voting for congress, some because congress gave us independence (this itself is arguable but it makes me cry to see people believe it and then vote for congress based on this).
>>People there count each day of their lives and every night thank god for giving them the opportunity to see one more day.<<
So, who has made the situation thus for them? They themselves have.
# posted by : 12:35 PM
: 12:35 PM
All the 'crap' I've written is meant for people with simple logical sese to understand. On the contrary, your crap about sonia being a hope for millions is amazing.
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Boss, in India, people ARE killed if they go with their thoughts - unless the thought supports congress. So many riots in the recent past, so many bombings, yet we cannot speak our mind. And you call this a democracy?
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Boss, in India, people ARE killed if they go with their thoughts - unless the thought supports congress. So many riots in the recent past, so many bombings, yet we cannot speak our mind. And you call this a democracy?
# posted by : 12:35 PM
: 12:35 PM
The means are by rewriting history books to state that Guru Gobind Singh was a rapist and such malicious texts, by keeping knowledge of our own culture and sciences hidden.
# posted by : 12:36 PM
: 12:36 PM
>>BJP always sucked bigtime<<
says who? any proof? As i said, today you are able to write this blog courtesy the telecom boom promoted by the BJP. I see this tendency in you of making blatant opinioisation without facts. Please correct this and show me the facts. Otherwise, there is no shortage of adjectives. I can blame congress for the same - and owing to 50+ years of misrule, I have more facts about cogress failure and BJP's success in only 5 years.
says who? any proof? As i said, today you are able to write this blog courtesy the telecom boom promoted by the BJP. I see this tendency in you of making blatant opinioisation without facts. Please correct this and show me the facts. Otherwise, there is no shortage of adjectives. I can blame congress for the same - and owing to 50+ years of misrule, I have more facts about cogress failure and BJP's success in only 5 years.
# posted by : 12:37 PM
: 12:37 PM
>>wearing a Safron T-Shirt<<
Again, you are bringing saffron into it - why cannot you keep religion away from politics? congress effect?
Again, you are bringing saffron into it - why cannot you keep religion away from politics? congress effect?
# posted by : 12:37 PM
: 12:37 PM
>>trust me<<
trust you??? a congress supporter? who supports a party that should be banned for destroying India? who supports a party for its failures?
trust you??? a congress supporter? who supports a party that should be banned for destroying India? who supports a party for its failures?
# posted by : 12:38 PM
: 12:38 PM
Anisha, if you want to talk about real issues, why don't you raise them? Mind you, tht will bring more dirty linen of the congress out in the public.
It is not the origin but the upbringing that matters. How can a person who hasn't grown up here rule this place? It is not just HIndi (which she anyway reads from a roman script - i gave proof to the effect). She is poor in ANY language of India. How can such a person communicate with the people? I already raised this point, yet you are repeating it. tum congresswaalon ke saath yehee problem hai. tum log ek hee baat baar baar repeat karte rahte ho without any factual basis (while accusing BJP of the same as you did in your post).
What non-issues have BJP raised? Is the IMDT act a non-issue? Is muslim headcount in the army a non-issue? Do you have nay idea of the repurcussins of such activities as those promoted by congress? What non-issue has BJP raised? Why does Rahul need a brazilian girlfriend, by the way? Nehru needed an English mistress, Rajiv an Italin wife and Rahul a Brazilian girlfriend. Why the hell is this family hell bent on ruling India then???
You call sonia's hindi decent, Even after staying here for 26 years, she reads hindi from the roman script and you call it decent? Do you have any knowledge of Hindi yourself? And what are your guidelines for deciding decency in hindi? come on, let's come down to facts.
It is not the origin but the upbringing that matters. How can a person who hasn't grown up here rule this place? It is not just HIndi (which she anyway reads from a roman script - i gave proof to the effect). She is poor in ANY language of India. How can such a person communicate with the people? I already raised this point, yet you are repeating it. tum congresswaalon ke saath yehee problem hai. tum log ek hee baat baar baar repeat karte rahte ho without any factual basis (while accusing BJP of the same as you did in your post).
What non-issues have BJP raised? Is the IMDT act a non-issue? Is muslim headcount in the army a non-issue? Do you have nay idea of the repurcussins of such activities as those promoted by congress? What non-issue has BJP raised? Why does Rahul need a brazilian girlfriend, by the way? Nehru needed an English mistress, Rajiv an Italin wife and Rahul a Brazilian girlfriend. Why the hell is this family hell bent on ruling India then???
You call sonia's hindi decent, Even after staying here for 26 years, she reads hindi from the roman script and you call it decent? Do you have any knowledge of Hindi yourself? And what are your guidelines for deciding decency in hindi? come on, let's come down to facts.
# posted by : 12:39 PM
: 12:39 PM
Kaushik Sir... no offence meant.... would request you to use all the space in on single post... instead of writing 2 or 3 posts...for a single point.
Please try and write as many pts in one post as u can..else the discussion/debate will appear completely one sided. :-)
Please try and write as many pts in one post as u can..else the discussion/debate will appear completely one sided. :-)
>>Most of their politicians are so unpolished, crass and brash<<
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I'm surprised. It is this self-hatred that I hate. Can you come down to facts and instantiate what you consider crass and brash? Of course, your love for an England-like culture may make you think that mama's boys like rahul and rajiv are polished. Polished in what?
Arun Shourie is crass? Arun Jaitley is brash? Advani is unpolished? hey boss, don't repeat lies... just get down to facts - i know it is very uncongresslike but still - get down to facts.
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I'm surprised. It is this self-hatred that I hate. Can you come down to facts and instantiate what you consider crass and brash? Of course, your love for an England-like culture may make you think that mama's boys like rahul and rajiv are polished. Polished in what?
Arun Shourie is crass? Arun Jaitley is brash? Advani is unpolished? hey boss, don't repeat lies... just get down to facts - i know it is very uncongresslike but still - get down to facts.
# posted by : 12:39 PM
: 12:39 PM
>>Have you noticed the way they shout and scream on talk shows/debates? <<
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I'm surprised again - the BJP representatives on the talk shows are some of the most well-mannered. On the other hand, Have you listened to abhishek manu singhvi? what does he do other than shout and scream? What dos kapil sibal do?
Please give me an example of Sushma swaraj behaving in an uncultured manner. As far s Uma is concerned, yes, she shouts. But so do 99% Indians, even in foreign lands. What did your congress do in 50 years to polish Indians?
I have listened to Uma's speeches. They have logic - unlike your congresswallas. If BJP is so poor and sucks in every department, why does your congress have a single-point agenda of stop-BJP???
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I'm surprised again - the BJP representatives on the talk shows are some of the most well-mannered. On the other hand, Have you listened to abhishek manu singhvi? what does he do other than shout and scream? What dos kapil sibal do?
Please give me an example of Sushma swaraj behaving in an uncultured manner. As far s Uma is concerned, yes, she shouts. But so do 99% Indians, even in foreign lands. What did your congress do in 50 years to polish Indians?
I have listened to Uma's speeches. They have logic - unlike your congresswallas. If BJP is so poor and sucks in every department, why does your congress have a single-point agenda of stop-BJP???
# posted by : 12:41 PM
: 12:41 PM
Some points in the blog might be true but thats inconsequential in the blogs context. How is Maneka Gandhi related to whataver is being talked about. I might not be able to support Congress for every act of theirs but BJP.. NEVER in my life. Just cause they dont have the ruling thing in them. They seem like a herd of cows who are neither presentable nor global in thinking. You are working in an MNC and i am sure i dont need to explain you the fruits of being global. You are talking about me being from delhi.. i can accuse you of the same fact that you have had the time of your life in Bihar .. so what ?? do i really need to go out to know the situation ?
Congressis are causing the Bombings ??? Wow this was a new insight into the story. Hmm right last night i had a dream that Sonia married Rajiv just for the reason that 15 years after Rajiv is assasinated (Sonia Gandhi was the master there as well), she can have a tie up with LeT and carry on a series of bombing in India. I thought only i knew that. How did you get that Kaushik ?? (Aaj Tak, Sabse pehle.. ?)
Yeah i know Kaushik, the truth hurts. When your own BJP is not able to keep religion away from Politics, why would I ? Can you really afford being a hypocrit like this ? Have one say or dont say.
>>I'D RATHER HAVE AN ITALIAN PRIME MINISTER THAN HAVE SOMEONE LIKE UMA BHARTI/NARENDRA MODI RULE MY COUNTRY. AND NO, THAT DOES NOT MAKE ME LESS PATRIOTIC THAT ANYONE ELSE<<
Oh yes, it does. The british were good administrators - they are so even now - the whole point of the independence struggle was swaraj. Although it has nothing to do with congress, the congress today claims the first use of the term 'poorna swaraj'. The congress asks for votes saying it fought for independene. So, yes, it does make you less patriotic if you want an Italian PM. Uma was a good administrator earlier, however, now she is more on the egoistic side. But what's wrong with Narendra Modi? He's the best CM of India. Ask common gujaratis what they think of him. If he becomes the PM, the country can develop like anything - within years, this will be a developed country - unlike under congress which is destroying whatever little is there.
>>I LOVE MY COUNTRY AND I WOULDNT WANT A GROSSLY INCOMPETENT, INTOLERANT, UNCOUTH PM!<<
Then you should support Modi, not Sonia.
Oh yes, it does. The british were good administrators - they are so even now - the whole point of the independence struggle was swaraj. Although it has nothing to do with congress, the congress today claims the first use of the term 'poorna swaraj'. The congress asks for votes saying it fought for independene. So, yes, it does make you less patriotic if you want an Italian PM. Uma was a good administrator earlier, however, now she is more on the egoistic side. But what's wrong with Narendra Modi? He's the best CM of India. Ask common gujaratis what they think of him. If he becomes the PM, the country can develop like anything - within years, this will be a developed country - unlike under congress which is destroying whatever little is there.
>>I LOVE MY COUNTRY AND I WOULDNT WANT A GROSSLY INCOMPETENT, INTOLERANT, UNCOUTH PM!<<
Then you should support Modi, not Sonia.
# posted by : 2:07 PM
: 2:07 PM
>>They shot themselves in the leg when Sonia won the elections and decided not to become PM.<< abe o, comment likhne se pahle pooree blog padh liyaa kar. bewaqoof ladkee, she did not decide not to be PM. She was advised by the congress decisionmakers so so that they could play the sacrifice card - that too after our revered President pointed out a technical difficulty in making her the PM. Bloody, aataa jaataa hai naheen kuchh, kuchh bhee likh detee hai?
ye padh:
http://newstodaynet.com/2006sud/06mar/2403ss1.htm
http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/may/18sonia.htm
http://www.saveindiaforum.com/dynamic/
Do you know that Italy does not forfeit its citizenship status? Thus, technically, Sonia is legally still an Italian citizen and this effects to her being a dual citizen, currently not permitted in India.
Again real issues? to bol na kyaa hain tere real issues? phir main jawaab detaa hoon.
>>They didnt want her as PM- FINE! SHE ISN'T!<< bewaqoof ladkee - it is not the post but the POWER that is in concern. if she is such a saint of sacrifice, why doesn't she sacrifice the power and let manmohan do his job? post chhodne kaa naatak karo, phir power le lo. Why doesn't she sacrifice 10, janpath which rightfully belongs to the PM which she isn't?
ye padh:
http://newstodaynet.com/2006sud/06mar/2403ss1.htm
http://in.rediff.com/news/2004/may/18sonia.htm
http://www.saveindiaforum.com/dynamic/
Do you know that Italy does not forfeit its citizenship status? Thus, technically, Sonia is legally still an Italian citizen and this effects to her being a dual citizen, currently not permitted in India.
Again real issues? to bol na kyaa hain tere real issues? phir main jawaab detaa hoon.
>>They didnt want her as PM- FINE! SHE ISN'T!<< bewaqoof ladkee - it is not the post but the POWER that is in concern. if she is such a saint of sacrifice, why doesn't she sacrifice the power and let manmohan do his job? post chhodne kaa naatak karo, phir power le lo. Why doesn't she sacrifice 10, janpath which rightfully belongs to the PM which she isn't?
# posted by : 2:08 PM
: 2:08 PM
>>I found the point about how "Congress won because 'WE' don't vote" very amusing<<
Amusing it may be but it is also the truth. The truth can, at times, amuse the uninformed.
>>First, even in urban settings, THERE ARE TOLERANT PEOPLE WHO CANNOT STAND THE BJP/RSS IDEOLOGY<<
BJP RSS ideology kyaa hai bataa to zaraa?
Iskaa tolerance se kyaa matlab hai?
tujhe idea hai ki jitne hinduon ko tere terrorist friends ne maaraa, usse zyaadaa muslims kee madad RSS ne kee in times of crises. On several occasions, govt aid never reached the needy (ye hai tere congress kaa aslee chehraa) but RSS reached them.tolerance kee kyaa baat kar rahee hai be? How much should we tolerate? Will you tlerate it if someone rapes your family and then kills them simply because you do not have a name like theirs or because you are not in a burqa?
If you point out inequalities in policies, if you ask for a uniform code, you are called intolerant???
If you ask for the country to be unified, you are intolerant?
padhee likhee hai yaa yoon hee pataakhe chhod rahee hai?
tere jaise anpadh ganwaaron kee wajah se we are being ruled by this shit party that has divisive ideologies.
>>So a lot of us would STILL vote for the Congress/Left<<
Wo to dikh hee rahaa hai... tabhee to county kaa paisaa quatrocci ke paas hai aur iraq kaa paisaa natwar ke paas.
Left? You still vote for the left? Tum jaise logon par logic kaa koee asar naheen hotaa because
1. you don't listen
2. you don't try to understand logic
3. you believe in lies and rumours
4. you spread lies and rumours
Amusing it may be but it is also the truth. The truth can, at times, amuse the uninformed.
>>First, even in urban settings, THERE ARE TOLERANT PEOPLE WHO CANNOT STAND THE BJP/RSS IDEOLOGY<<
BJP RSS ideology kyaa hai bataa to zaraa?
Iskaa tolerance se kyaa matlab hai?
tujhe idea hai ki jitne hinduon ko tere terrorist friends ne maaraa, usse zyaadaa muslims kee madad RSS ne kee in times of crises. On several occasions, govt aid never reached the needy (ye hai tere congress kaa aslee chehraa) but RSS reached them.tolerance kee kyaa baat kar rahee hai be? How much should we tolerate? Will you tlerate it if someone rapes your family and then kills them simply because you do not have a name like theirs or because you are not in a burqa?
If you point out inequalities in policies, if you ask for a uniform code, you are called intolerant???
If you ask for the country to be unified, you are intolerant?
padhee likhee hai yaa yoon hee pataakhe chhod rahee hai?
tere jaise anpadh ganwaaron kee wajah se we are being ruled by this shit party that has divisive ideologies.
>>So a lot of us would STILL vote for the Congress/Left<<
Wo to dikh hee rahaa hai... tabhee to county kaa paisaa quatrocci ke paas hai aur iraq kaa paisaa natwar ke paas.
Left? You still vote for the left? Tum jaise logon par logic kaa koee asar naheen hotaa because
1. you don't listen
2. you don't try to understand logic
3. you believe in lies and rumours
4. you spread lies and rumours
# posted by : 2:09 PM
: 2:09 PM
>>Secondly, "WE" comprise a very very small percentage of the total population!<<
waise itnaa kam bhee naheen hai - aur agar hai to kyon hai? Why is the intellectual elite in this country such a small population as you claim (even after 50 years of congress rule)???
What rich and upper class? country men development karwane ke lie paise chaahie hote hain, unlike what you left leaners would want us to believe - to paise kahaan se aaenge? rich se hee aaenge na? to NDA ne wohee kiyaa. Why didn't FDIs and FIIs come in 50 years of congress rule? Do you also remmeber that India finished off its loans to the US under NDA rule? ab baat kar na real issues ke baare men.
>>The millions of people out there, languishing in poverty<< haan to wohee to bol rahaa hoon. Why are there millions of poor people after 50 years of congress rule??? too qhud hee facts quote kar rahee hai against congress and phir congress ko support bhee kar rahee hai? Apne 'dimaagee santulan' kaa ilaaj karwaa le.
waise itnaa kam bhee naheen hai - aur agar hai to kyon hai? Why is the intellectual elite in this country such a small population as you claim (even after 50 years of congress rule)???
What rich and upper class? country men development karwane ke lie paise chaahie hote hain, unlike what you left leaners would want us to believe - to paise kahaan se aaenge? rich se hee aaenge na? to NDA ne wohee kiyaa. Why didn't FDIs and FIIs come in 50 years of congress rule? Do you also remmeber that India finished off its loans to the US under NDA rule? ab baat kar na real issues ke baare men.
>>The millions of people out there, languishing in poverty<< haan to wohee to bol rahaa hoon. Why are there millions of poor people after 50 years of congress rule??? too qhud hee facts quote kar rahee hai against congress and phir congress ko support bhee kar rahee hai? Apne 'dimaagee santulan' kaa ilaaj karwaa le.
# posted by : 2:10 PM
: 2:10 PM
>>Why is secularism seen as anti-hinduism? <<
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Hainnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn?
i thought secularism was anti-islam. if you don't believe me, read about islam.
Go through www.faithfreedom.org
hinduism is already secular. how can secularism be anti-hinduism?
But why impose secualrism on us by giving special privileges to vote banks (courtesy your congress - why cannot everybody be ruled equally)? Is what congress does secularism? Agar hai to prove kar. bol ki kab secularism ko anti-hinduism bolaa gayaa hai. facts bataa.
>>Why is there so much insecurity about the present government being anti-hindu<<
Why? go to assam or just open your eyes in delhi and mumbai and calcutta and chennai - everywhere in fact - the places are full of bongdeshis. Our temple money is taxed and used for running their madarssas that churn out terrorists. There are lots of points - uske lie tujhe uma bharati kaa bhaasaN sunnaa padegaa. samajhnaa padegaa.
Waise leave it, just read 'the World of Fatwas' by Arun Shourie.
Read about islam and the threat it imposes on the whole world.
In sab ke lie bahut research karnee padtee hai ladkee. khaalee blog padhne se naheen hotaa.
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Hainnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn?
i thought secularism was anti-islam. if you don't believe me, read about islam.
Go through www.faithfreedom.org
hinduism is already secular. how can secularism be anti-hinduism?
But why impose secualrism on us by giving special privileges to vote banks (courtesy your congress - why cannot everybody be ruled equally)? Is what congress does secularism? Agar hai to prove kar. bol ki kab secularism ko anti-hinduism bolaa gayaa hai. facts bataa.
>>Why is there so much insecurity about the present government being anti-hindu<<
Why? go to assam or just open your eyes in delhi and mumbai and calcutta and chennai - everywhere in fact - the places are full of bongdeshis. Our temple money is taxed and used for running their madarssas that churn out terrorists. There are lots of points - uske lie tujhe uma bharati kaa bhaasaN sunnaa padegaa. samajhnaa padegaa.
Waise leave it, just read 'the World of Fatwas' by Arun Shourie.
Read about islam and the threat it imposes on the whole world.
In sab ke lie bahut research karnee padtee hai ladkee. khaalee blog padhne se naheen hotaa.
# posted by : 2:12 PM
: 2:12 PM
>>Even with a Muslim President, Sikh PM who is allegedly controlled by a Catholic woman, HOW CAN ANY GOVERNMENT EVER BE ANTI-HINDU IN A COUNTRY LIKE INDIA?<<
ye hee to gadbad hai.. itnaa achchhaa president hai hamaaraa, but you first call him muslim.
PM ko sikh bolkar hinduon se alag kar die - do you know about sikhism? Tell me how it is different from hinduism. come on - i challenge you to prove to me how sikhism is different from hinduism. uske lie phir tumhen sikhism ke baare men bhee padhnaa padegaa.
but finally, ye argument samajh men naheen aayaa. if you re implying that all heads are non-hindu, to phir to it should be an argument against hindu security, not for it. See, after the godhra riots, gujarat reaction happened - then these guys were quiet for a while. Now again they have started their activities. Don't you hear news reports? the train blasts had full insider support.
Tera communist minister buddhadeb kyaa paagal hai ki madarse band karwaane kee baat kartaa hai, border seal karne kee baat kartaa hai? Do you know that the estimated population of only bongdesh muslims in India is more than 1 CRORE.
But of course, congress and commies ko inse vote jo milte hain - kuchh hindu mare to mare.
ye hee to gadbad hai.. itnaa achchhaa president hai hamaaraa, but you first call him muslim.
PM ko sikh bolkar hinduon se alag kar die - do you know about sikhism? Tell me how it is different from hinduism. come on - i challenge you to prove to me how sikhism is different from hinduism. uske lie phir tumhen sikhism ke baare men bhee padhnaa padegaa.
but finally, ye argument samajh men naheen aayaa. if you re implying that all heads are non-hindu, to phir to it should be an argument against hindu security, not for it. See, after the godhra riots, gujarat reaction happened - then these guys were quiet for a while. Now again they have started their activities. Don't you hear news reports? the train blasts had full insider support.
Tera communist minister buddhadeb kyaa paagal hai ki madarse band karwaane kee baat kartaa hai, border seal karne kee baat kartaa hai? Do you know that the estimated population of only bongdesh muslims in India is more than 1 CRORE.
But of course, congress and commies ko inse vote jo milte hain - kuchh hindu mare to mare.
# posted by : 2:13 PM
: 2:13 PM
>>The BJP should learn to be less emotional about things and not get lost in irrelevant issues.<<
abe bewaqoof, log MAR rahe hain. ye tere ko relevant naheen lagtaa kyaa?
>>We need to progress as a country and progress is not about some people getting ahead and the majority of the people in the country still living in the darkness of poverty, illiteracy, unemployment, etc<<
to ye to tere ko congress se poochhnaa chaahie. BJP ke under to more people left their poverty behind. Or did you expect ki 5 saal men congress kee pooree gandagee (50 saalon kee) saaf ho jaae?
abe bewaqoof, log MAR rahe hain. ye tere ko relevant naheen lagtaa kyaa?
>>We need to progress as a country and progress is not about some people getting ahead and the majority of the people in the country still living in the darkness of poverty, illiteracy, unemployment, etc<<
to ye to tere ko congress se poochhnaa chaahie. BJP ke under to more people left their poverty behind. Or did you expect ki 5 saal men congress kee pooree gandagee (50 saalon kee) saaf ho jaae?
# posted by : 2:14 PM
: 2:14 PM
>>be it any party .. (yeah i mean Congress.. is there any other party as well which can control India and make it SHINE without the use of the INDIA SHINING POSTERS and ADS ? :))))<<
tum log chaatte raho... safed chamdee waalon kee... the other option is ki oopree hissaa badhaao - aankhen kholo - chaaron taraf dekho - koopmandook mat bano - naheen to kisee din naam poochh ke maar die jaaoge.
india shining posters? to jab india progress kar rahaa thaa to kyon naheen bataaen is fact ko? teraa congress kyaa kar rahaa thaa 'meraa bhaarat mahaan' posters and stickers lekar? ponchne ke lie the wo sab? Kaun see mahaantaa thee us time? karz men doobe hue, khaane ko daanaa naheen, sookhaa akaal, corruption men seeped - par meraa bhaarat mahaan. And what about full page ads in newspapers every other day with the photographs of THE family? NDA ke time par to shine thaa bhee... ab to pheekaa pad gayaa hai. Lekin ads phir bhee band naheen ho rahe hain congress ke.
control india? yeah, you're right. control hee to kiyaa hai in congressi logon ne ab tak. sabko baant kar control hee to kiyaa hai. Par SHINE kab kiyaa hai boss congress ke under?
tum log chaatte raho... safed chamdee waalon kee... the other option is ki oopree hissaa badhaao - aankhen kholo - chaaron taraf dekho - koopmandook mat bano - naheen to kisee din naam poochh ke maar die jaaoge.
india shining posters? to jab india progress kar rahaa thaa to kyon naheen bataaen is fact ko? teraa congress kyaa kar rahaa thaa 'meraa bhaarat mahaan' posters and stickers lekar? ponchne ke lie the wo sab? Kaun see mahaantaa thee us time? karz men doobe hue, khaane ko daanaa naheen, sookhaa akaal, corruption men seeped - par meraa bhaarat mahaan. And what about full page ads in newspapers every other day with the photographs of THE family? NDA ke time par to shine thaa bhee... ab to pheekaa pad gayaa hai. Lekin ads phir bhee band naheen ho rahe hain congress ke.
control india? yeah, you're right. control hee to kiyaa hai in congressi logon ne ab tak. sabko baant kar control hee to kiyaa hai. Par SHINE kab kiyaa hai boss congress ke under?
# posted by : 2:16 PM
: 2:16 PM
Yes, you do need to go out to know the situation.
So who brought these MNC boomers in India? your congress didn't. then what 'ruling thing' are you talking about? What ruling thing has congress got? again, come down to facts and give me the achiements of congress and i'll give you the achievements of BJP, some of which i already did.
not global in thinking? then how did they bring global business into India? not presentable? Now again, let's decide on what constitutes presentability first. This is not a ramp and they are not models.
Menaka gandhi was a valid point in the post - being from THE family, she was a part of BJP earlier. And the point was about self-hatred.
Ya, but bihar is not delhi... that is why i have seen more of congress's failure than you guys.
Insiders... does not mean congressis... socho. insiders have helped the bombers and congress policies have helped them flee... every time.
>>Yeah i know Kaushik, the truth hurts. When your own BJP is not able to keep religion away from Politics, why would I<<
ok, prove this. I challenge you. How has BJP not kept religion away from politics?
So who brought these MNC boomers in India? your congress didn't. then what 'ruling thing' are you talking about? What ruling thing has congress got? again, come down to facts and give me the achiements of congress and i'll give you the achievements of BJP, some of which i already did.
not global in thinking? then how did they bring global business into India? not presentable? Now again, let's decide on what constitutes presentability first. This is not a ramp and they are not models.
Menaka gandhi was a valid point in the post - being from THE family, she was a part of BJP earlier. And the point was about self-hatred.
Ya, but bihar is not delhi... that is why i have seen more of congress's failure than you guys.
Insiders... does not mean congressis... socho. insiders have helped the bombers and congress policies have helped them flee... every time.
>>Yeah i know Kaushik, the truth hurts. When your own BJP is not able to keep religion away from Politics, why would I<<
ok, prove this. I challenge you. How has BJP not kept religion away from politics?
# posted by : 2:42 PM
: 2:42 PM
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- This is whats written in small fonts at the bottom of your reference site. If tomorrow i create a site with unknown authours with their own ideologies, it doesnt become the truth.
Secondly, I am not afraid of anyone so there is not need to delete any post. It was Abhishek. This is my blog so even if i delete one, no one will get to know that. :) .. blogging for the first time .. huh ? I guess ur BJP had this techie thing in them since Alice went to Wonderland..?
- This is whats written in small fonts at the bottom of your reference site. If tomorrow i create a site with unknown authours with their own ideologies, it doesnt become the truth.
Secondly, I am not afraid of anyone so there is not need to delete any post. It was Abhishek. This is my blog so even if i delete one, no one will get to know that. :) .. blogging for the first time .. huh ? I guess ur BJP had this techie thing in them since Alice went to Wonderland..?
Well, deleted dikh rahaa hai post, that's why I asked. You may not be afraid of anyone, but you may be afraid of facts that challenge your opinions (just like you say, opinions are't facts). I am asking you for facts, not opinion. That the telecom boom came in te NDA rule is fact, not opinion. That India is still poor after 50+ years of congress rule is a fact, not opinion.
If your congress had this techie thing in them since alice in wonderland, how come our technical achievements started more in the NDA rule?
Well, search for my name in Google and you'll see I participated in many blogs here and there and comments in a few sites, too. And I refrain from writing my opinions in blogs. If you visited as many blogs as I did, you wouldn't remain a first time frog in the blog either. I have given a few references - go through them and increase your knowledge - then let us fight on this topic, otherwise, it is difficult for me to fight opinion with facts if you are not able to distinguish between them.
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If your congress had this techie thing in them since alice in wonderland, how come our technical achievements started more in the NDA rule?
Well, search for my name in Google and you'll see I participated in many blogs here and there and comments in a few sites, too. And I refrain from writing my opinions in blogs. If you visited as many blogs as I did, you wouldn't remain a first time frog in the blog either. I have given a few references - go through them and increase your knowledge - then let us fight on this topic, otherwise, it is difficult for me to fight opinion with facts if you are not able to distinguish between them.
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